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January 4, 2009
4:48 am

Tony Diaz

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Hello,

Is Market Theme usable within an existing theme?

Or am I stuck with redoing it to retain my existing look and feel?

(As WP-eCommerce just slides in, in my existing theme http://16sector.com)

Can products / links be listed in posts/pages?

Is full documentation available?

..unlike the way WP-eCommerce is doing it, where they have nearly squat available and two others who prowl the forums have compiled their answers and are selling it as a Q&A example compilation for $37? Nearly the price of your entire plugin, that I can use for multiple sites I run if I wanted to, even which sounds quite reasonable.

In your feature comparison you show WP-eCommerce as having "User Purchase History", does this mean previous orders are non-trackable?

January 4, 2009
4:56 pm

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I use market theme with an existing theme by creating another wordpress install in a sub folder.

Yes you can have more than one install (several even) on the same domain.

User purchase history is only availble though paypal

January 5, 2009
5:32 pm

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Yes, what Icy says is a nice and quick solution. You'd do a new install of Wordpress in a folder named "store" or "products" or something like that.

Within that folder, you'd install the Market Theme and adjust the colors within the stylesheet if you wanted.

Then you'd just put a link to your "Store" on your main blog.

(FYI: if you do that, you may want to have the "Grid-view" layout set at your main page. Just look in the "How-to" section of the member forums for the instructions on that. )

January 6, 2009
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Hmmm.. sounds quick, but not so 'nice' to me, sounds like a kluge. As if it would mean two copies to keep updated, two copies to login admin, etc.

I guess, until I try it, I can't say for sure, but it sounds like there would be your existing site and then a whole other site "crammed" into the page body .. with it's own sidebar, header and what not, too? Sort of like using frames, it sounds like.

While the license is really nice, use it for what you want, domain wise, as long as they are all yours, but at the same time .. if I don't want a whole theme forced on me.. I realize it is called MarketTheme..

I just seems a whole lot better support wise, than the crazy madness going on with WP-eCommerce at this time. Seems like every version they put out is breaking stuff here and there, or the author changes stuff and they must be anti-documentation in kiwi-land, because he writes practically *nothing* doc wise.

Lets put it this way, third party docs have a place, but when your primary docs are nothing more than a medley of forum posts compiled together using a font that looks like taggers went nuts on a wall in South Central L.A., and charging $37 for it, is the 'prime source' of any documentation, that doesn't say much for the author's commitment to the users. :(

But two copies of WordPress may be a deal killer for me, too- and I may just have to stick it out a bit longer with WP-eCommerce.

OTOH.. wow, looking at the demo, it's like your products are just pages. No voodoo. But then again, if this is a complete theme, are we stuck with everything looking like everyone else who uses this?

(Autofill somehow put my name in the post topic field before I caught it)

January 6, 2009
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I guess, until I try it, I can't say for sure, but it sounds like there would be your existing site and then a whole other site "crammed" into the page body .. with it's own sidebar, header and what not, too? Sort of like using frames, it sounds like.

Close, but not exactly…

It wouldn't be another site inserted into the page body like a frame, but more like two separate sites.

On site "A", you would have a link in your header that goes to your store (site "B"). The only code within site "A" is a hyperlink to a page in a sub-folder. When a user clicks on the link, they go to the store subfolder containing site "B".

They are not overlapped, but linked together.

I just seems a whole lot better support wise, than the crazy madness going on with WP-eCommerce at this time. Seems like every version they put out is breaking stuff here and there, or the author changes stuff and they must be anti-documentation in kiwi-land, because he writes practically *nothing* doc wise.

Lets put it this way, third party docs have a place, but when your primary docs are nothing more than a medley of forum posts compiled together using a font that looks like taggers went nuts on a wall in South Central L.A., and charging $37 for it, is the 'prime source' of any documentation, that doesn't say much for the author's commitment to the users.

I hear you. That's got to be frustrating. We certainly understand that many of our potential customers are not coding experts. Others just want something fast and don't want to spend a whole lot of time integrating it. That's one of the reasons we went with the finished theme direction over a plugin.

We try to lay things out step by step in the installation instructions. If it's done well, it cuts way down on questions in the forums anyway. And because Market is a theme — it's already easier to install anyway.

But two copies of WordPress may be a deal killer for me, too- and I may just have to stick it out a bit longer with WP-eCommerce.

OTOH.. wow, looking at the demo, it's like your products are just pages. No voodoo. But then again, if this is a complete theme, are we stuck with everything looking like everyone else who uses this?

Market does present products in a completely different format that regular posts. It's the same .php page as blog posts, but in the beginning of the page code it deciphers if the post is a product post or a blog post. If it's a blog post, it presents it one way — if it's a product post, it presents it in another way.

One more thing you may not know is that the colors of the theme are all changeable through the theme's stylesheet. Nothing is hard coded within the pages, so if you want to change colors to match your site — you just change the colors set in the stylesheet.

Also, for what it's worth… Our future version (Market 4) is working toward removing the shopping cart coding from the regular theme pages and putting them in separate files. This will work to modularize the theme.

Basically, this will make it much easier to integrate the operational mechanics into your own theme. For example, rather than having a lot of code within the single.php post page, there will be an "IF THEN" statement and a call to a product code module. I won't get into deep detail here, but think of it as adding a line such as:

INCLUDE PRODUCT_THUMBNAILS HERE

This "modular" version is probably about 2 months away.

I hope this helps..

What is the Market Theme?